TF-104G ejection seats

[wjkunert]

I just received my Italeri 1/32 TF-104G which I intend to do in Dutch colors as D-5803. I have read in a couple of places that the Dutch used the Lockheed C2 seat and never did change over to the Martin Baker seat. Italeri calls for the MB seat in the Dutch aircraft. Does anybody have knowledge of the correct seat for this aircraft? I'm also having trouble finding RAL7012 and RAL6014
Thanks for any help.

[BlackSheep214]

RAL 7012 is Basalt Grey

https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagorie ... gIIvPD_BwE

RAL 6014 is NATO Olive

https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagorie ... gLP1vD_BwE

[wjkunert]

Thanks for the reply. I should have mentioned that I brush paint and that makes finding the RAL paints I need a bit more difficult. I really like Mission Models paints because they brush so well. I'm surprised more companies haven't come out with RAAL 6014 and 7012 as they were standard NATO colors used by Holland and Germany during the cold war.

[BlackSheep214]

Try using this chart:

www.paint4models.com

Download the conversion chart. I often use this handy tool.

From what I've seen on that chart, RAL 7012 can be the same as RLM 2, FS 26152 or FS 36152

I couldn't find RAL 6014. AK Interactive is probably your best bet for this color.

[Stikpusher]

Here is D-5803 in museum storage. C2 seat is clearly visible. I doubt that they went and put the old seat type back in.



As far as paint colors go, have a look at Vallejo for the RAL colors. Stirring them is a chore, but when properly stirred, they do handbrush fairly well. Xtracolor is another paint line for RAL colors you may want to check out as well. But those may be OOP now.

[BlackSheep214]

I was just going to mention Vallejo paints....

[speedgraflex]

Thanks for the reply. I should have mentioned that I brush paint and that makes finding the RAL paints I need a bit more difficult. I really like Mission Models paints because they brush so well. I'm surprised more companies haven't come out with RAAL 6014 and 7012 as they were standard NATO colors used by Holland and Germany during the cold war.

Mr. Paint may be a solution for your RAAL colors. MRP brand is not Gunze brand paint. Also I was thinking you could send an email to Mission Models Paints for color matching advice. I did a tiny bit of research on seat types as well—you’re probably well aware of the slight variations due to different manufacturers, too. Good luck.

[wjkunert]

Thanks for the reply. I emailed Mission Models about this about a week ago and haven't heard back from them. They do have RAL7001.

[speedgraflex]

Example - 1/32

[Stikpusher]

MRP paints are formulated for airbrushing. At least that is what I was told by the guys who run the only shop in the area that carry the line. And they are some serious modelers themselves.