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Re: Modeling Cliches That Hurt

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:14 am
by lawdog114
Great reading.... Gotta chime in:

Yellow is easy for me....Tamiya Flat Yellow with a touch of Flat Red through an airbrush. No issues regardless of what I spray it over. Try it.

Decompression builds? eh....6 to one half dozen to another. I build all my models pretty much the same way and add detail as necessary. I rarely if ever build with whats only in the box. I'm always adding seatbelts, tires, or at least aftermarket decals.

Jolly Rogers? Must agree. I might throw up if I see another Kepford Corsair. Thats why I did Boyington's ride last year. I do intend to do a VF-84 Tomcat someday though. Final Countdown is one of my favorite movies.

Preshading? I personally love it and still do it. I think its a matter of doing it in the right measure...Subtle. It works for me.

Stuff that annoys me:
* "AMS"- Accute...Accurate....Advance...or whatever you wanna call it syndrome.
* Future Floor wax on everything. It used to be great when I first started this hobby, back when puppies were the oldest animal, but somewhere along the line it changed into it's latest incarnation. The :poo: won't cure anymore. It truly works best on your floors.....
* To tie into the above statement.....shiny glistening canopies dipped in Future on Warbirds. I don't believe plexiglass glistened in the 40's and should be war weary like the rest of your beatuifully weathered model. Hit them with a touch of Novus cleaner to get the oils from your fingers off and be don't with it.
* People who say "just sayin" after a statement. I know your saying it because you just said it......derrrrrr! This is not however modeling specific....

......and finally, yes I agree, Tamiya is not automatically the best. I think Hasegawa gives them a run for their money in alot of respects. For example, I much prefer Hasegawa's 1/48 scale Fw 190 A's over Tamiya's versions. I think Tamiya's Type 21 Zero is kind of a dog, but their newer Type 32 and 52 are breathtaking. Tamiya's P-47 is by far my favorite model kit though.

Oh my...how theraputic!...... :headbang:

Joe

Re: Modeling Cliches That Hurt

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:19 am
by LyleW
lawdog114 wrote:Great reading.... Gotta chime in:

Stuff that annoys me:
* "AMS"- Accute...Accurate....Advance...or whatever you wanna call it syndrome.
* Future Floor wax on everything. It used to be great when I first started this hobby, back when puppies were the oldest animal, but somewhere along the line it changed into it's latest incarnation. The :poo: won't cure anymore. It truly works best on your floors.....
* To tie into the above statement.....shiny glistening canopies dipped in Future on Warbirds. I don't believe plexiglass glistened in the 40's and should be war weary like the rest of your beatuifully weathered model. Hit them with a touch of Novus cleaner to get the oils from your fingers off and be don't with it.
* People who say "just sayin" after a statement. I know your saying it because you just said it......derrrrrr! This is not however modeling specific....

......and finally, yes I agree, Tamiya is not automatically the best. I think Hasegawa gives them a run for their money in alot of respects. For example, I much prefer Hasegawa's 1/48 scale Fw 190 A's over Tamiya's versions. I think Tamiya's Type 21 Zero is kind of a dog, but their newer Type 32 and 52 are breathtaking. Tamiya's P-47 is by far my favorite model kit though.

Oh my...how theraputic!...... :headbang:

Joe
Joe, it is also cheaper than some medicines! Maybe, I don't know......I have a bottle of Future that will likely last longer than me. So far, dipping the clear stuff has saved my bacon (love bacon, but that is another thread) a time or two when I screwed up the paint on the part. Windex and I can start over.

I like Revell. Why? They can be crappy, but they are usually cheap. So, it may be a mixed bag of you get what you pay for and if I trash it I'm not out too much.

Need coffee.

Re: Modeling Cliches That Hurt

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:30 am
by lawdog114
Indeed Lyle. The Monogram He 111 is one if my favorite kits....and the only player in 1/48. The B-17 is awesome too.

Re: Modeling Cliches That Hurt

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:53 am
by BlackSheep214
I agree with Tamiya's P-47 Thunderbolts. I have 2 in my stash (Bubbletop and Razorback versions) as one is still a WIP. Wonderful kits and I love the detailing in them.

Re: Modeling Cliches That Hurt

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:52 am
by Paul
The reason I leave out stuff in a lot of my builds stems from laziness so I don't have decompression builds.
I build for MY enjoyment and not somebody else so don't go all "rivet counter" on me ( another cliche I don't like).

If I have problems with a kit or don't want it any more then I have no problem binning it. Good grief, it's a bunch of plastic and before anybody goes off being concerned with the money I just trashed or the value of the kit understand one thing please, it's my money and there are thousands of kits out there so you didn't miss out.

As far as pre shading and washes go, if you want to impress me then go subtle. I know war weary planes happened but every once in a while I would like to build or see one that looks like it is still fairly new and not dunked in burned sienna or yellow ocher.

Jolly rogers are just as over done as a certain bee that is showing its ass on a certain Skyraider. Please try and find something else.
I am not as capable as a lot of modelers so please quit trying to pass judgement on me. It is a hard thing for me to do with other modelers and I try real hard to give support when I can.

Aircraft is plural as well as singular, Aircraft's are possessive.

Don't bring me into a war with other modelers, please. I have friends that may piss you off so get over it. How old are you, adult or juvenile?

I don't mind you criticizing my work, just don't talk to me like I am 9.

I agree with Manny (is it really possible to agree with him?) that every thing is not black and white, but a statement like " that's the wrong shade of RLM 76" really makes me ask " how do you really know? Have you weighed all the variables and were you there in 1943 to help the RLM make the decision?

I really thank Jim for pointing this out and saying something about these, even though they are really not cliches but gripes but they are founded on truth.

Re: Modeling Cliches That Hurt

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:23 pm
by Stikpusher
You're getting a little condescending there Jim. To some folks rivet counting is altering a model that may have panel lines off or some similar detail issue from the manufacturer, not about the quality of their own work. Nor about their desire or lack of for self improvement.

Re: Modeling Cliches That Hurt

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:30 pm
by BlackSheep214
Stikpusher wrote:You're getting a little condescending there Jim. To some folks rivet counting is altering a model that may have panel lines off or some similar detail issue from the manufacturer, not about the quality of their own work. Nor about their desire or lack of for self improvement.
I agree.